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Hi Dr N,

Next month I will commence treatment with a device created by Neuromod Technology in Dublin - The Mutebutton II which uses Bi-Modal stimulation to reduce Tinnitus Sounds by 40% on Average.

What are your thoughts on this new technology?

Apparently from a scientific point of view they have ticked all the boxes and have obtained favorable results.

Would you hold any hope for this treatment ?

I think I'll book you in for a skype session also if ok as I could do with a hand up right now and I think you could get me back on track.

Many thanks

Robert

 
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Next month I will commence treatment with a device created by Neuromod Technology in Dublin - The Mutebutton II which uses Bi-Modal stimulation to reduce Tinnitus Sounds by 40% on Average.

I wish you well with it. Once anybody has made the decision to move ahead with any given treatment program, I of course wish that person well.

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What are your thoughts on this new technology?

Well, my honest thoughts are that if anybody were to come up with a technology that could predictably, reliably, and lastingly decrease tinnitus intensity by 40%, then that person should be awarded a Nobel Prize, and his or her technology would already be offered in every VA Hospital in the US as well as every ENT office in the world.

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Apparently from a scientific point of view they have ticked all the boxes and have obtained favorable results.

I have a serious question, Robert. What exactly is it that has led you to conclude that "they have ticked all the boxes and have obtained favorable results?"

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Would you hold any hope for this treatment ?

Interesting question. Let me answer it this way. I think that hope is vastly overrated, at least as far as tinnitus is concerned. Why? Because hoping that it this treatment or that will eliminate tinnitus or lastingly reduce its intensity is not going to affect the likelihood of that actually happening one iota. However, if you wake up each morning hoping that maybe today will be the day, then there is a very good chance that you will start each day being disappointed that nobody has yet come up with the holy grail, a treatment that will either eliminate tinnitus or lastingly reduce its intensity. On the other hand, if you assume that your tinnitus is here to stay forever, and then one day you find out that somebody has indeed discovered the grail - then you can be totally thrilled to have been wrong in your original assumption. I think that the latter approach makes much more sense. After all, why start out each day being disappointed if you don't absolutely have to??!!

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I think I'll book you in for a skype session also if ok as I could do with a hand up right now and I think you could get me back on track.

I'll look forward to it!

All the best -

Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.

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Thanks for the reply. Your psychology and logic can't be faulted. I will persevere with the device and will book you in for a skype soon. Many thanks for your support.

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Thanks for the reply. Your psychology and logic can't be faulted.

You are welcome. When you have made as many mistakes as I have over the years, you are bound to get something right every once in a while.

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I will persevere with the device ...

... and if you happen purely by coincidence to notice even a little improvement, you will absolutely attribute it to the device. It's only natural to do so.

But I'd still like to know what led you to conclude that "they have ticked all the boxes and have obtained favorable results."

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will book you in for a skype soon

There's no rush. I'm not going anywhere. :-)

Be well.

Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.

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I see what you're saying and I actually agree with you. The problem is I am desperate. The T has increased in intensity and reactivity to the extent that I can barely function.

The reason why I say they have ticked the boxes is that they have carried out independent double blind studies which they have sent for peer review.
Something any other device seems to have failed to do... Levo etc.

For the record I agree with everything you say. I am also a logical man (I have 2 Maths degrees !) and I greatly respect the way you think.
Unfortunately desperation sometimes is a factor. 3 months ago I wouldn't have dreamed of humoring this device believe me.

I look fwd to our conversation

R
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I see what you're saying and I actually agree with you. The problem is I am desperate. The T has increased in intensity and reactivity to the extent that I can barely function.

I totally understand why you feel that way, but I don't believe you. You might not be functioning the way you want to be functioning, but saying that you can "barely function" gives your tinnitus far more credit (and power) than it deserves. Which is ZERO.

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The reason why I say they have ticked the boxes is that they have carried out independent double blind studies which they have sent for peer review.
Something any other device seems to have failed to do... Levo etc.

Interesting. To the best of my knowledge all of the data they quote are internal. I am not aware of any reliable and independently verifiable double-blind randomized peer-reviewed prospective studies attesting to a lasting 40% reduction in tinnitus intensity.

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For the record I agree with everything you say. I am also a logical man (I have 2 Maths degrees !) and I greatly respect the way you think.
Unfortunately desperation sometimes is a factor. 3 months ago I wouldn't have dreamed of humoring this device believe me.

The decision of what treatment approach to use and when is a highly personal one. Of course desperation plays a role. There's a word for that phenomenon. It's called NORMAL.

All the best with it.

Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.

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Thank you for your kind words.
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You are welcome.

Stephen M. Nagler, M.D.

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